Security bug in Firefox - Glad I use MS IE!

Monday 12th December, 2005
Mozilla have announced a security problem with the latest Firefox relase. As described on The Register, the flaw could cause the browser to freeze up - rendering it useless until a workaround is used. Of course at this point you can't access the web to research the problem.

Personally, I'm glad I use MS IE 6 (with Avant Browser front end), didn't everyone move to Firefox to get away from security problems?

'The Browser you can trust?' - my arse!

  1. 1) Ben Poole Said: (12/12/2005 13:00:04 GMT) Gravatar Image
    Security bug in Firefox - Glad I use MS IE!

    That's hardly a huge issue now is it? ;o) Personally I moved to Firefox for reasons of functionality... this thing is extensible and is constantly upgraded. IE just... sits there.

  2. 2) Chris Linfoot Said: (12/12/2005 13:00:08 GMT) Gravatar Image
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    "Glad I use MS IE!"

    You're 'avin a larf int cha?

  3. 3) Ben Rose Said: (12/12/2005 13:14:22 GMT) Gravatar Image
    Security bug in Firefox - Glad I use MS IE!

    @1 - No doubt it would be another excuse for the FF users to slag off IE if it were the other way around. At least you moved for functionality reasons, that's why I use Avant Browser.

    @2 - Not joking at all, I still fail to see the big Firefox benefit.

  4. 4) Ports Said: (12/12/2005 13:57:59 GMT) Gravatar Image
    Security bug in Firefox - Glad I use MS IE!

    Hang on! You report one problem with Firefox and that makes it "useless" and thus justifies your continued use of IE! Yet there are many known vulnerabilities in IE which are still unfixed so how can that make sense? If you are happy to use IE and it does the job for you that that is fine, but don't kick the competition because one bug has been found. Throwing stones in glass houses is never a bright idea.

  5. 5) Ben Rose Said: (12/12/2005 15:04:04 GMT) Gravatar Image
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    Come on Ports, the security focus 'Bugtraq' DB lists no less than 3 pages of security problems in Firefox since launch; Buffer overflow, spoofing etc.

    Granted, not as many as IE (although it's not been around as long) but hardly the secure environment that Firefox marketing might lead you to believe.

    I'm not saying IE is great, just that Firefox isn't really that much better.

    It's like saying that Unix sendmail is more secure than Exchange. It is, but sendmail has been around for decades with hundreds of known issues.

    Yes, firefox is newer. Yes, firefox has newer and better features. Yes, firefox is more open. But more secure? Maybe more so but certainly not secure outright and not worth the hassle of the amount of websites that don't render in it.

    I'm going back to Lynx or NCSA Mosaic, it has less vulnerabilties ;O)

  6. 6) Ben Poole Said: (12/12/2005 16:06:28 GMT) Gravatar Image
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    So now would not a good time to tell you that you have an errant HTML "close comment" tag at the top of every page on your site *when viewed in Firefox* then? ;o) (it's related ot the RDF tags)

  7. 7) Ben Rose Said: (12/12/2005 16:20:05 GMT) Gravatar Image
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    Not only do I not have an issue in IE, I don't even know what an RDF tag is, lol.

    Is it a Firefox issue, or a site design problem?

    Is it:

    1) Bad rendering of a good design?

    2) Bad rendering of a poor design?

    3) Texy book rendering of a poor design?

  8. 8) Chris Whisonant Said: (12/12/2005 16:39:29 GMT) Gravatar Image
    Security bug in Firefox - Glad I use MS IE!

    While I always give MS a hard time b/c of security, I didnt' switch to FF for that alone. I love the tabbed browsing and the extensibility of the program. Extensions and Themes are great! The LDD Grease Monkey is a prime example of how one can help out the browser...

  9. 9) Christopher Byrne Said: (12/12/2005 17:25:42 GMT) Gravatar Image
    Security bug in Firefox - Glad I use MS IE!

    Two words: Tabbed browsing!

  10. 10) Ben Rose Said: (12/12/2005 17:55:55 GMT) Gravatar Image
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    @9 - Two words: Avant Browser!

    You'll find it was around in AB for a long long time and it works better than FF. Each FF release gets closer to the AB tab functionality, but it's not there yet.

  11. 11) Ben Poole Said: (12/12/2005 21:34:03 GMT) Gravatar Image
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    Re RDF: dodgy code mate, dodgy code ;o)

  12. 12) Steve Castledine Said: (13/12/2005 15:02:41 GMT) Gravatar Image
    Security bug in Firefox - Glad I use MS IE!

    Its caused by having a "-" in the subject field.

    Because in your configuration you auto-generate page urls from subjects, spaces are converted to "-" - and if you already have a "-" you get a lot of "-" (like this post).

    Have a couple of "-" together and firefox thinks that a commented out area of html has ended before it actually has (even though no ">" is present). therefore the comment end (-->) is shown as text.

    IE doesn't care (I guess because there is no ">") and behave's.

    I should put some additional code in to not replace

    spaces with "-" if either side of it there is a "-".

  13. 13) Ben Rose Said: (13/12/2005 15:07:19 GMT) Gravatar Image
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    Suddenly it becomes clear. I've seen issues with the 3 x "-" thing before and usually correct it before publishing.

    Can't fix it now as I know it breaks the linking on the comment documents, but will keep an eye on it for the future.

    Thanks Steve.

  14. 14) Andi Taylor Said: (22/12/2005 20:49:18 GMT) Gravatar Image
    Security bug in Firefox - Glad I use MS IE!

    Yeah, and who introduced you to Avant Browser all them years ago, eh? ;)

    /me uses Firefox now.. lol

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